Interesting that the guest makes the assumption that these presumed ‘powerful elites’ are only superficially into the true occult stuff with math and other deep detail. Interesting to note that the dark creepy stuff is likely just more or less draped with an air of occult, but is really just extreme child abuse. What’s more interesting is that whole mainstream media (News Corp?) has shot up an emergency screen with ‘fake News’ written on it. Kind of like how the CIA and FBI are having conflicting views on well publicised points re this whole US identity conundrum, we see the continuing disintegration of the power driven western consciousness matrix.